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I mounted a set of ITP Holeshot tires on the back of my Garden tractor and I'm looking for ideas on how to stud the tires for the ice!  Any suggestions that are cheap?  Its only a 23 HP Garden tractor, so it doesn't need super strong studs like an ATV might.  

Here's the Holeshots after I cut 1 tire with tire groover! 

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They have like 16 psi in them in this pic from the tire shop, so they aren't that balloon shaped anymore!  lol
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here are some from ebay.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-GOLD-SCREWS-ATV-Motorcycle-Ice-Race-Studs-AMA-CMA-OGS-7-16-250-/121441533988?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c467ac024&vxp=mtr

one year i just used 1/4 inch sheet metal screws from the hard ware store they were a few cents each. they lasted in my predator tires for 5 or 6 trips to the lake for ice riding until about 75% of them flung out but we are talking about 75mph tire speeds. i think they would last almost forever on a lawn tractor.

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I was looking at some like that.  My only concern is all my time will be spent on concrete and blacktop, so I wondered if they would wear fast and if they would actually reduce traction on bare concrete?  

I'm hoping to try it tomorrow in the snow, so I will know if it needs studs or not I guess!

I'm also a little afraid of losing those dam screws and them ending up in my car tires!!!!!  lol  

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yeah those would be my concerns also. other than that i am out of good ideas on this one.

as far as bad ideas go i am full of them. you could do some bolts clear through with a nut on the back then either tube it with a thick liner or use tire slime, but that would be a serious pain in the butt then you could have the same traction issues and more flat tire issues.

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some real light duty chains could also be an option.
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I have chains for it, but it rides so rough then its really annoying because I actually have a rotary broom on the front of it to sweep the light snows off and I need just the right height on the broom otherwise the bristles either don't touch or they are pushing down hard and wearing out super fast.  The chains make the rear of the tractor go up and down as each chain cross bar goes under the tire, so the broom is impossible to get set properly then.  

Im going to try these with no studs and see how they do first!  I was just looking for ideas in case I need more bite!  
Thanks man!  [smile]


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oh yeah let us know how it goes.
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I'd get another tire. Something like the old
style MX/XC Turf tamers with a wide contact
patch. What wheel size are you stuck with ??

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12 inch wheel luckily.  
The tires had 16 PSI in that pic so they looked like balloons.  They flattened out a lot by letting the air way down.  I'll run them 3-4 psi depending how much they squat, but I want them real low on air so they have a wide contact.  

Kinda like my wife, we got 2 inches last night (of snow), so I'll try them out this morning!  lol  

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I was going to suggest sheet metal screws too, we use them on track kits for traction on ice. Don't lose many on them and they last about a seasons worth of riding. 
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I used the sweeper this morning in 2 inches of wet heavy snow and WOW!  These things hook 3 times as hard as the previous tires.  Its rediculous how much better it is.  It even rides like a Caddy now because these are radials.  I'm happy as heck so far.  Ice will be the next test for it.  
Thanks for the ideas in case I need them!  [smile]

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Very cool glad to hear it.
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2012 POLARIS RZR 4 900 XP
2008 POLARIS RZR 800
2008 POLARIS OUTLAW 525S LE
2007 POLARIS OUTLAW 525 IRS
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those gold screws last quite awhile. a lot longer than normal sheet metal. they tear up the concrete with the quads but i also have knuckleheads burning tire to throw sparks. cant say i'm innocent there. never had a flat from all of them in the driveway but we usually use 5/8 to 3/4 in studs. post some pics of your new b/a tractor! lol
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ooops!!! guilty!!!
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Uhhhh......you think we didn't know that already???? Come on man!!!!!! Dustin done let the cat out of the
Bag on you TJ. LOL!!!!

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how did you know it was him!? Lol it definitely was
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Has anyone tried the Kold Kutter racing screws?

https://koldkutter.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=21_22&osCsid=98127b69006edc6a1633c2150ba86ee8

Also how bad do these tear up the tires if I wanted to take the screws out and use them again for summer riding? I have 20" razr rears and 21" razr 2 fronts. 

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Nice!!!!!!!!!
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