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Wanted to touch base with you outlaw guys and get a view on the Stainless Steel cleanable filters that claim to be better then stock paper filters....i know there are a few different options out there. are there any to avoid?

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i have been using the tusk ones recently with good success and i have used the cheap ebay ones for years also with no failures
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Got one myself and have no complaints. 
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thanks guys, i took the plunge and got some coming!
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thanks guys, i took the plunge and got some coming!


Who did you get them from?

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Got mine from boss powersports on eBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181730621527

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A little late here, but I hate them.  Paper for me.
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Nick how you been long time no talk.... So why paper and hate the SS cleanable? You can't post without some justification. Why don't you like them?
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I had one on my old Predator. I thought they were a pain to clean and I felt I never got them truly clean. You can also see through them so all the fine shavings don't get caught.

http://www.gwrra-ohh2.org/pdf/oilfilter.pdf

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This is what I don't like about paper filters, I change 20 to 50 a week on air compressors ( not your home compressors, Like rotary screw type! ), there lives are shorter then you think, the paper wholes get bigger when dirty from shear force and then they clog up up with particles, but in our world of powersports we should be changing them soon enough that that doesn't matter. On the stainless, they should be fine if you do clean them like they say! Blowing air from the inside out isn't hard to make a small wand tip with a 90° like 1/8 or 5/32 in copper on a simple blow gun  using a compression fitting!
Plus every your keeping more crap out of land fills with stainless ones. So just like everything else it is all about opinions. just my 2 cents

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I can see both points and my thought is this, while paper might initially filter better, the stainless catch anything major that would cause fatal engine damage, i am a maintenance nut and as soon as i see my oil change color I change it. oil is cheap. motor building gets expensive. i can see how with the heat and paper a potential for pleat breakdown and true flow rate breakdown, i havent seen many reports of stainless filters failures unless from user error. I just thought this would be a good idea for the new engine build. thank you guys for all your knowledge and free opinions.
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I've been interested in stainless filters, too.  I've been told that an ultrasonic cleaner works well for cleaning them. 

Interestingly, the reusable filters are publishing their specs as filtering 30-35 microns absolute.  I have yet to find any paper filter for off-road powersports (not automotive) that lists filtering or efficiency specs.  Knowing the drastic differences in quality and efficiency between various brands of automotive filters, without as much oversight I would have to believe that the same variations or worse exist in the off-road filters.  Meaning the quality of filtering is only as good as the quality and integrity of the manufacturer. 

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I would tend to agree with the above statements, my thoughts also are the user interaction and how soon one changes their oil or just runs the piss out of it. some guys ride and put away, others like myself with ADD, tend to go over board, but then again maybe that's why all my rigs last....purely IMHO.....lol[party0030]
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I would speculate that the reason specs for most filters cannot be found is because we wouldn't be very impressed with the numbers if they were ever released.
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I bet your very right... I did some research on automotive filters as I have a car that requires a certain spring pressure to release to ensure oil moves properly and boy what an eye opener on such wide ranges of filters. Could only imagine how these tiny little filters are.... Or aren't!
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Got the filters and must say they look like real good quality and a long life span of protection.

http://outlawracingproducts.com/ouraprreoilf.html

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181730621527?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

$14.95 with free shipping.

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I ordered a couple, too.  We'll see how they look when they get here. 

For cleaning I plan to use an ultrasonic cleaner.  It works great for cleaning circuit boards and other hard to reach places.  I imagine it would be just as good at cleaning these filters.

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Hi guys.new to this site... Looks good so far. I use reusable filters in one of my farm quads, a Yamaha Pro Hauler.. It's a '91 model and it hasn't died yet. I do believe that Yamaha sold them as a genuine part 'cause when I did go buy oil and filters for it the parts guy was confused as to why I needed a new one. I told him I had bought the bike second hand and was worried that the filter wasn't genuine. He assured me it was, sold me a new one and told me to read the owners manual. Sure enough he was right.
Can some one let me know where I can get both filters for my 525 Outlaws because it would be a damn side cheaper than the paper ones.

05 Predator 90
06 Predator 90
07 Outlaw 525 IRS
08 Outlaw 525 IRS
97 TRX 300 Fourtrax
91 Yamaha Pro Hauler
'13 TGB 460
'12 Balistic 250

My missus keeps telling me I've got too many toys... I thought she was just breaking my ass!! But now that I've listed em along with the one I've sold and the one that got stolen maybe she's right...LOL. I Keep telling her it's ' cause of the kids but I think she knows it's all bull s...t!!!
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Gen3 and I purchased these filters:

1st filter
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181730621527?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

2nd filter
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400910991488?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
They seem to have a slightly better micron rating than some others. 

A couple other options:
http://www.motosport.com/PC-RACING-FLO-STAINLESS-STEEL-OIL-FILTER


https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/1679/35891/Tusk-Reusable-Oil-Filter?v=8462


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hello and welcome to the site.

too many atvs is relative i think you need a few more.

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2014 POLARIS RZR 4 900 EPS
2012 POLARIS RZR 4 900 XP
2008 POLARIS RZR 800
2008 POLARIS OUTLAW 525S LE
2007 POLARIS OUTLAW 525 IRS
2000 400 RCR TWO STROKE SCRAMBLER
2001 400 TWO STROKE SCRAMBLER
2005 SKI DOO 1000 TWO STROKE SAND SLED
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here is what they look like new.
screens.jpg  screen2.jpg   


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Thanks for the info guys
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Just to add my 2 cents, Aircraft hydraulic filter are stainless mesh down to 3 microns for some application.
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I use to use the reusable filters but not anymore. I had a crank bearing failure on one of my predators do to a reusable filter clogging up and collapsing (twisted and squeezed). I cleaned the filter the day before. I will admit im not sure if the lack of oil going though the filter was cause by bearing failure or did filter failure cause the bearing failure . either way it got me worried about using them. I will also add this, the filter I was using was over a year old, so maybe the filter got old and weak. I would say to still replace the reusable filters at least once every 6 months , just to be safe.  the filter I was using was a pc racing filter.
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