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hugginjugs

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My 17yo. son and I are planning our first trip to Little Sahara in OK. at the end of March. I have a brand new pair of 8 paddle AMS Sand Snakes that I want to use on his Outlaw. They are 20/11/10. Obviously not going to work on the 9" rear wheels on the outlaw. As you probably know there are no 10" wheels with the stock IRS backspacing. I've read about others using the Predator wheels. I realize this will make the rear wider, but I don't think this will be a problem in the dunes. I really just want to verify that these wheels will clear the rear A arms before I bid on a used pair I found on Ebay. They are ITP T9 Grand Prixs 10x8 w/ 3+5 backspacing. They have a 4/110 bolt pattern. Can you verify that this is the correct bolt pattern?
Any tips anyone has for Little Sahara or dune riding in general would be appreciated also.
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Yes, the bolt pattern is 4/110.  Honda and Predator wheels should work, but like you said will make you wider.  The only remaining source for 10" IRS offset wheels is Polaris...who is very proud of them considering their cost.
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Have fun at the dunes! 
In general:  Momentum is your friend in sand. 
Don't stab the throttle, feather it until you get some forward momentum then give it more gas.  This will help minimize getting stuck.
If you are stuck, don't keep spinning the tires.  IRS Outlaws can dig some very deep holes if you want to, but they aren't fun to get out of if you do.
Don't go over the top of the dune without knowing what is on the other side.
Sand changes constantly.  Don't assume the dunes will be the same every time you ride.

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Been to Little Sahara a couple of times. Sand there
is on the coarser side and does let you stay on top
better, so it does'nt rob power as much. The place is
a bit small being around about 1400 acres with lots
of flat areas for great long haul drag racing. There
are a couple of taller Dunes at one end (Butter cup).
Tallest is probably only around 125 ft tall, but pretty
good for some side hilling.....There are some charactors
that frequent the place, and keep an eye out for donut
pits. The clowns like to spin deep holes, and there hard
to spot. We ran into one that a buggy dug out. It was
big enough to eat 3 quads. It's Okahoma, so expect a
lot of helmet less riders. Camping is fair, and there is an
enclosed large Privy and showers, but the sanitation
left a little bit to be desired.....if it's still open, there is
a shop right there with gas pumps. One pump did have
race gas if needed......Flags are mandatory. I don't
remember the height but there is a cross bar you go
under and the tip of the flag must touch it or they will
send you back for a better one. That shop I mention did
have them in stock.....Nearest town is about 15 miles from
the dunes, and had a Wall Mart beyond town.

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Thanks for the replies.
I wasn't aware Polaris offered 10" wheels w/ the IRS offset. I thought I looked everywhere.
I think I will go with the ITP's. Its less costly to buy 2 used 10" wheels and use my brand new paddles than buy 2 new 9" paddle tires. I'll just put up w/ the additional width.

Little Sahara is only 1400 acres? Looks huge in Google earth. I rode Silver Lake several times in the early 90s and always thought it was small. Having said that, we were planning to ride there since its so much closer. (Central Indiana). However they don't open until April 15. Guess I should verify that Little Sahara is open!

My ultimate goal is to make it out to Oregon. The dunes there look incredible. Time and distance are tough to overcome for a trip like that though! Hopefully someday. Anyway, I'm sure we will enjoy Oklahoma.

P.S. I'll be breaking in the extended swinger you just finished for me out there Fuj. Thanks again for that.
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09 and up came with 10" wheels.  DWT used to make a 10" wheel for the IRS that was much cheaper than the factory Polaris wheels, but they discontinued them. 

If you get out to Oregon, shoot us a line.  We'll show you around the dunes!

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Been to Oregon too....LOL   Loved Florence being able
to ride right on the Ocean's edge. Closer to you though
is St Anthony in Idaho and over 12000 acres, and some
hills that will give you a nose bleed....LOL  Best time of
year though is about mid June and beyond for the place.
Been there 3 times and hope to go back at least 3 more.

Killpecker in Wyoming is even closer to you, and Leo plans
on having the site event there just after the 4th of July.
That's high desert country, and end of March may be a bit
cold.

I almost forgot.....There is another Little Sahara but it's
in Utah. Should be a straight line for you across the
Rockies if the passes are open.

And another note....Little Sahara in Oklahoma has a rattle
snake hunt every year. Look the place up and check dates.
I under stand it gets pretty stupid there around that time.

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I didn't realize St. Anthony was in Idaho. Thought that was another Oregon site. May have to look into that. Depending on where it is in Idaho that's probably an entire day less of driving!
I'm just hoping for good weather and small crowds at Little Sahara! This will be my sons first experience on the dunes. We are both excited. Should be fun.
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